Believe in Jesus & Convert too

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The ongoing battle to convert the Jew has taken on a new twist recently a la Asher Meza. ‘Rabbi’ Meza has announced a Conversion to Judaism Event 2016 on July 12-13th in Keansburg, NJ.

The posting of the video announcing of the event by  ‘Rabbi’ Meza has drawn some real hungry folks desperate for Jewish identity:

Mezer comments

Some of Cheri Dillion’s assembly[AKA messianic fellowship] are going to Keansburg, NJ to get converted. The golden question asked is if its possible to covert and believe in Jesus/ Yeshua. The good news according to Cheri is that Meza and company do not ask. But ‘Rabbi’ Meza has no problem with it either. Its a free event so that makes it OK and where is the harm?

The measure of a man and a ‘Rabbi’

Asher Meza   Conversion to Judaism event 2016 July 12 13th in...

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The Asher Meza conversion extravaganza falls hot on the heels of yet another Jewish-Christian relations event: 2016 Shavuot Conference, Celebration and Tour by the Commonwealth of Israel (COY) where the teaching of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai becomes even more relevant:

 A group of people were travelling in a boat. One of them took a drill and began to drill a hole beneath himself.

His companions said to him: “Why are you doing this?” Replied the man: “What concern is it of yours? Am I not drilling under my own place?”

Said they to him: “But you will flood the boat for us all!”

(Quoted in Midrash Rabbah, Vayikra 4:6). From the teachings of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai

There have been many self hating Jews who have knowingly attempted to drill a hole in the boat which represents the Jewish people’s collective reliance on each other for their mutual survival. For many years the boat has seen many drilling attempts!

In a new twist we see another dynamic taking place under the rubric of Jewish-Christian relations. The boat is occupied and populated not only with Jews but now with ‘invited’ Christians who love Israel.

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Slowly and stealthily a new agenda pitches the idea that those lovers of Israel being loaded onto the boat will not be a problem. Anyone on the boat by virtue of being part of the Jewish people who raises just an eyebrow will be quickly branded as a hater. A hater because they fail to see that the new initiative has no holes drilled in the boat…….. apparently.

We may note at this point that rocking the boat, overloading the boat are other ways included in the ways of sinking the boat.

The bigger picture

Glitzy marketing along with literature, slick videos, custom tours and conferences such as the 2016 Shavuot Conference, Celebration and Tour by the Commonwealth of Israel (COY) folks gives a prime example of loading the boat up with the lovers of Israel.

Commonwealth of Yisrael   12 STONE COUNCIL

Anticipating against the naysayers, the frame work of the agenda is set out in the rules of engagement. Judah = Jews, Ephraim (an already forgone conclusion) = non-Jews and 10-Israel = 10 lost tribes;

  1. There shall be no Conversion attempts by any party WITHIN the activities and communications of COY Projects – this applies as much to proselytizing Jews by 10-Israel as to conversion promotion by Judah towards Ephraim.
  2. Ephraim – There shall be no discussion, witnessing, quoting of NT for proselytizing purposes (by Ephraim).
  3. Judah – There shall be no bad mouthing, condemning, de-Messianising attempts towards Ephraimites. judeo-christian
  4. Theological differences will NOT be allowed to bring division –the rule shall be to agree to disagree with respect and friendship.
  5. There shall be NO muzzling of what any party to COY teaches in their own capacity outside of COY communications. The basis of our Reconciliation shall be to build on that which we agree upon (Ref. the ‘Areas of Commonality) above.

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A recent video “The Gate Of Heaven” shows the above rules of engagement in action where a rising young star of the Waller family (headed by Tommy Waller) is seen in his enthrallment of the land of Israel in a recent promotion of ‘biblical tours’ where the scriptures come alive.

The Wallers have trashed their old web presence and now have a relatively gospel-free site at Hayovel.com. However, they and their harvesters continue to share jesus and express an ever-more overt and fervent Christian end times message via YouTube, Facebook, blog sites, video productions, documentaries and newsletters.

Hayovel’s original vision and mission can be viewed in this clip:

“…for us sharing the gospel is not only verbal, it has an action to it. It’s based on relationships. As we’re working with these people [the Jews], we’ll be able to share with them this Jesus, that we know…   Our family has begun a ministry called Hayovel. The vision of Hayovel is to develop a network of individuals, families and congregations who are ready to labor side by side with the people of Israel. To bless them, to stand with them, to share with them a passion for the soon coming jubilee in yeshua messiah.” http://jewishisrael.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-waller-family-making

The warm fuzzy glow produced by the first four points in the rules of engagement above is no doubt to serve to pacify the natives of the boat that no one is drilling those holes in the boat.

The points in the rules of engagement above however, reflect Greek thinking that every point can be viewed separately with no interaction/ interconnection between the points. Somehow we just have to pretend that all is OK, the Christians invited onto our boat are not drilling holes on the bottom of our boat.

Point 5 however sticks out like a sore thumb, especially in view of the nefarious activities of the various missionaries which include those outlined above; ‘good’ Jews know and just have to accept that “There shall be NO muzzling of what any party to COY teaches in their own capacity outside of COY communications”… NO ONE IS DRILLING THE BOAT……. YOU CANNOT HEAR THE KERCHING OF THE CASH TILLS…………

merv

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6 thoughts on “Believe in Jesus & Convert too

  1. I know R’Meza personally and this post is utter nonsense. He has never, not once, converted someone who believes in Yeshu. I know a number of people who have converted through his organization (myself included) and we were all asked if we believed in Yeshu and were explicitly told that if we did that we ABSOLUTELY WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO CONVERT. We even had to sign disclaimers to that effect. I have since had giyur l’chumra with another established beit din (who actually held the original conversion to be valid) and many of Asher’s other gerim have been accepted in mainstream Jewish communities. Did you even bother to contact him and give him a chance to give his side of things or did you simply see some post on Facebook and run with it as fact?

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