Cringe Factor 4 Mr. Scott

I am no expert in body language but in a recent video highlighted on a missionary website caused a high count on my cringeometer. The recent video highlights a new partnership between Hayovel and The land of Israel Network. In the video, one of the two Rabbis present possibly displayed fawning deference to his own role and the roles played out by the others during the video. Via the body language I could almost hear him asking himself the questions, “how is thing going to fly, what are we doing here and what have we gotten ourselves into?”.

gimp

It could of course be none of the above assumptions but the questions are still relevant. During the video it was stated by one of the rabbis:

“True love is not about changing someone or giving them what you want to give them but giving them what they need….. and when the Waller Family came here in 2004, they came here not without any preconceived notions of what they wanted to do or wanted too give but how they came to serve.”

Call me picky but this was not the program or intentions of the Wallers in 2004 and beyond, even to the present day.  As recently as February  2015 we have an example of the type of Agenda that both Rabbi Gimpel, HaYovel and Don Finto are into:

After being welcomed on stage by Gimpel and the HaYovel team, Finto expresses his gratitude at seeing “what’s happening among Christians, believers in jesus, coming together, united together for ‘your’ purposes”. Finto lays his hand upon Gimpel’s shoulder and blesses him and Hayovel. This is followed by Finto’s prayer in the name of jesus, as well as Finto’s Hebrew version of the priestly blessing.

Hayovel’s original vision and mission can be viewed in this clip:

“…for us sharing the gospel is not only verbal, it has an action to it. It’s based on relationships. As we’re working with these people [the Jews], we’ll be able to share with them this Jesus, that we know… Our family has begun a ministry called Hayovel. The vision of Hayovel is to develop a network of individuals, families and congregations who are ready to labor side by side with the people of Israel. To bless them, to stand with them, to share with them a passion for the soon coming jubilee in yeshua messiah.” (article here)

An extensive list of HaYovel activities and the Wallers may be found at the Jewish Israel site. A survey of the facts indicate that quite the opposite is true, HaYovel is heavily committed to the evangelical mission of converting Jews to jesus/ yeshua from 2004 to 2015 at the very least.

Do some of our Rabbis know what they are doing and what they are enabling? The paradox of how supposedly learned men can fall for this type of thing is not new, apostasy and idolatry is something that has plagued the Jewish people for centuries.

The NT says that the root of all evil is money, I think missionaries know what they are doing and what they are trying to achieve. How can we Jews be so subject to such enticements? What will it take? When our sons and daughters want to intermarry? By then it will be too late. It is nothing new but will we ever learn from playing with idolatry? Worse of all and more cringeworthy is how some Jews presently expect us all to acquire collective amnesia to the facts and go along with madness since the ends of political correctness along with financial gain justify the means ….apparently!

 “Can there be a greater stumbling block than [Christianity]? All the prophets spoke of Moshiach as the redeemer of Israel and their savior, who would gather their dispersed ones and strengthen their [observance of] the mitzvos. In contrast [the founder of Christianity] caused the Jews to be slain by the sword, their remnants to be scattered and humiliated, the Torah to be altered, and the majority of the world to err and serve a god other than the L-rd.”(Chapter 11 of Hilchos Melachim from the Mishneh Torah of the Rambam)

Its like as if we have not been warned many times previously!

THE ONGOING CONTEXT:

15 August 2013

“Inquiring Minds Want to Know…”

9 Elul 5773 (15 August 2013)

Commenter Goldie ZP asks a very important question.

What’s really going on with Rav Eliezer Melamed, spiritual head of Yishuv Har Brachah and its hesder yeshivah:

Devash, Has Rabbi Melamed changed his mind? Would you know? Har Bracha residents: Christians out!  …

Quoting from the article:

Settlers living on the western hill of the religious community of Har Bracha recently sent a letter to the community secretariat, protesting the housing of Evangelical Christians in their neighborhood.

According to the residents, the presence of the Christian volunteers – who arrived to work in the community’s vineyards – violates the fabric of their society, and as a result – they hardly leave their houses.

“When we came to live in a religious community, we never imagined that one of these days we would be forced to live alongside people of a different religion, which doesn’t match our faith and lifestyle,” the residents wrote.

“We’re not interested in associating with them, or alternatively – staying away from the public domain… We live in a small, intimate place, which is greatly affected by the composition of the population living here.”

…The Christian volunteers are part of a large group of American volunteers affiliated with Yuval – a pro-Israel Evangelical organization. The group includes dozens of people, and their stay in Har Bracha was made possible after the community rabbi, Eliezer Melamed, met with them and ruled that they are not missionaries.

The rabbi’s stand was recently published in detail in the Beit El Yeshiva website, under the title, “Respect and love for the lovers of Israel.”

Ahavat chinam
at its most damaging.  (The money doesn’t hurt either.)

It’s my understanding that the Jews were forced to leave that area, but I have no documentation of it.

I have not spoken to the rabbi, but I know that others have and that he refuses to listen to anything against the missionaries, only to say that they are not “missionaries” despite all the proof to the contrary. I know he has referred to them as “righteous gentiles.”

If he’s not saying the things the missionaries are reporting in his name then there is a serious disconnect between his words and the ears of those who are listening to him. One prominent missionary, who is training Christians to come to Israel and save the Jews, says in a recent newsletter:

Having noticed the unselfish and unwavering support year after year of the volunteer organization HaYovel led by Tommy and Sherri Waller from Nashville TN, Rabbi Eliezer Melamed has taken an initiative to establish a Christian Zionist Visitor Center on the Mount of Blessing in Samaria, in order to strengthen and encourage Christian support for the so called settlers.

Rabbi Melamed is Head of Yeshivat Har Bracha and is a prolific author on Jewish Law. He is well known in Israel and has a popular weekly column in the Beersheva [sic] newspaper called “Revivim.” At the moment he is gathering other rabbis in Israel to get behind his historic initiative with a visitor center open for Christians on the Mount of Blessing.

We need to pray that Rabbi Melamed will succeed. Melamed has said that it is time for the Jewish people to act like Abraham, and open up the tent in order to receive those that have come to support them. He has gone even further and stated about HaYovel, “If we say no to these people, we will say no to the Messiah!”

Another, but related, question:

Does the fact that the missionaries perform avodah zarah in the vineyards and/or believe that the wine will one day be part of a central Christian religious ritual affect the kashrut of the fruit or the wine?

THE AVODAH ZARAH

HaYovel Ministries has designated “worship leaders” to guarantee that “praise and worship” is ongoing continuously in the vineyards during the working period. (See a clip of one of their videos HERE where they explain it. Transcription below.)

Volunteer Nate Taylor: “A group of worship leaders who have taken different times throughout the day to make sure that there’s continuous praise/worship and prayer throughout the vineyards. These vineyards belong to our Abba (God, the Father) in that our praise and worship is an important part of that cycle to recognize who Ha-Shem is. I believe it does motivate and encourage others, not only to work harder and faster, but they’re not even thinking about that, they’re thinking about how we praise Ha-Shem throughout the day, not only with our words and our lips, but with our actions.”


But, they say “Ha-Shem.”  How is that avodah zarah?  Glad you asked that question.  They’ve been coached to use our terminology, but they don’t mean the same thing by it that we do. So, who are they speaking about when they say Ha-Shem?

Following are five examples taken from Messianic websites where they identify who they mean when they say Ha-Shem.

1) “The Name” in Hebrew is hashem [sic].
A Jew named Peter realized the truth about “the Name” and taught that “the Name” is Jesus; Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. Acts 4:12

2) Since Jesus is the Name (HaShem) above every name (Phil. 2:9-10) and HaShem means God it looks as if Paul is saying that Jesus is God.

3) Facebook Page: Jews for Real Judaism(Hashem-Jesus is Messiah)

4) ..the first century Jewish Christians did not refer to “Jesus” they called Him The Name, yeah! that would be HaShem.

5) Yeshua is called HASHEM

Well, some Jews claim that this is still ok because these people no longer believe that Yeshu is G-d.  Oh, yeah?

This was written by one of HaYovel’s main volunteers – Barrett Warren – on his blog in January of this year. (Keep in mind that Tommy Waller handpicks his volunteers to insure that they are “like-minded” believers.)

Some call me a Messianic Jew or a Hebrew Christian. Let’s just say I’m a Torah observant Believer in Yeshua (Jesus).  …I thought I’d address some of the Scriptures that I believe show that Yeshua is YHWH.  …we have Yeshua claiming to be the I AM. That is He claimed to be YHWH who spoke to Moshe (Moses) in the burning bush.

THE WINE

Note that Christians (especially those of HaYovel) believe that Yeshu’s second coming will culminate in a great wedding between him and his faithful believers (who are called The Bride of Christ). They take it all very literally when they say they are helping to produce the wine which will be served at the great wedding feast…

An affiliate of HaYovel encouraging their followers to volunteer writes:

I have drunk the wine from the hills of Samaria. That is the wine that, one day, the Messiah will drink at the great reunion in Jerusalem for all His Believers!! …What if you were among the workers, who picked the grapes, of the winery from which the Messiah picks that big bottle of wine??!!

HaYovel writes in a newsletter:

At HaYovel we absolutely love weddings! …..and because we believe the vineyards have been and are being prophetically planted, pruned and harvested on the mountains of Israel specifically for the wine served at the great wedding feast in Jerusalem …..we feel it is important for us to do anything and everything we can to help. (Is 25:6-10, Rev 19:7-9, Mt 26:29)

These wedding preparation vineyards have, over the last 5 years, expanded exponentially in Samaria and Judea. It certainly looks like Abba is expecting a large gathering!

I’ve consulted a kashrut authority who is currently investigating.

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